The long awaited BRAKE TBS

[1BAD4DR]

TSB #: 05-006-06

Date: August 2, 2006

Subject: Front And/Or Rear Brake Rotors Grooved/Scored

Models: 2005 - 2006 (LX) SRT8 Charger, SRT8 Magnum, SRT8 300C

Symptom/Condition: Front and/or rear brake rotors may appear grooved or scored prematurely.

Diagnosis: Inspect the brake rotors. If the rotors show premature grooving or scoring, perform the Repair Procedure.

Repair Procedure: Using the procedures outlined in TechCONNECT: SERVICE INFO tab /5 - Brakes/Hydraulic replace the front and rear brake rotors with the slotted rotors listed in the Parts Required section. Inspect the brake pads and replace the pads as necessary.

NOTE: If premature grooving or scoring is present on any rotor, slotted rotors must be installed in the front and rear.

Policy: Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.

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PDF file of bulletin: #05-006-06

[Immo]

PDF file of bulletin: #05-006-06 (http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/LX/TSB/TSB_0500606.pdf)

[JamesCharger06]

Does this mean they will swap out our rotors for the slotted ones if they are scored??????? Mine are grooved and I only have 3300 miles... Is this a no charger thing????

[1BAD4DR]

Does this mean they will swap out our rotors for the slotted ones if they are scored??????? Mine are grooved and I only have 3300 miles... Is this a no charger thing????
I guess we need to find out what is within the provisions of the warranty.

[JamesCharger06]

I guess we need to find out what is within the provisions of the warranty.
I think the right thing to do for us ,,,is replace these with a rotor that will last at least 25,000 miles. ( I really don't break that hard,,,) I have bought el cheapo rotors that have lasted 50,000 before..:rulez:

[6POINT1]

Dealer has mine on order and said they should be here next week. I have over 15k on the car, but complained and had a record at 6k.

[tullyc]

Great info, new owner of SRT8, did not even know the problem was there. Walked out and checked, be dang if my rotors are not major groved. I am headed to the dealer the the TBS in hand. Thanks

[BMFSRT]

great find plan to make it in next week are the new rotors brembo sloted?

[johnchargersrt8]

I have 11,000 miles and the fronts look like a slot car tracks. Just left a message on the cell phone of my friend Ken who sold me my car. He works at the dodge dealer and is in good with the service guys. I am heading out on vacation but will be posting when I here back from him. Thanks for the info , this is why I like this site, VERY GOOD INFORMATION and cool car guys.
:rockon:

[DriveATransAm]

i have to bring in my car still to figure out why i lose pedal pressure on hard turns. maybe they can throw the new rotors on as well :)

[1BAD4DR]

great find plan to make it in next week are the new rotors brembo sloted?
Yes, the rotors, pads, and calipers are all made by Brembo. :)

[SRTGirl]

Mine are on order.. Hopefully they will not go on backorder.

[Immo]

Just talked to my dealer... My rotors should be in tomorrow....

[bigsteam1]

does anyone have a tbs number, or link for it..???:rulez:

[nhdave]

does anyone have a tbs number, or link for it..???:rulez:
Look in the first 2 posts in this thread... :doh:

[bigsteam1]

thanks bro...

[rsracana]

does anyone know if the jeeps are included in the brake tbs
thanks

[nhdave]

does anyone know if the jeeps are included in the brake tbs
thanks
From the TSB:
"MODELS:2005 - 2006 (LX) SRT8/Charger, SRT8/Magnum, SRT8/300C"

[Immo]

does anyone have a tbs number, or link for it..???:rulez:

http://www.srt8oc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21551&postcount=1

:dead_horse:

[JamesCharger06]

Went to the dealer today and they said they have not had any problems yet...I had the TSB in hand and I told them i wanted to get a jump so they don't go on back order.... The service manager told me my rotors are fine .......B>S>..... I can feel groves with my finger not my finger nail. ANyway he said TSB's are only good for 12,000 miles and one year.. He told me they sell more SRT8's than most ... and has not had anyone in yet..

[1BAD4DR]

Went to the dealer today and they said they have not had any problems yet...I had the TSB in hand and I told them i wanted to get a jump so they don't go on back order.... The service manager told me my rotors are fine .......B>S>..... I can feel groves with my finger not my finger nail. ANyway he said TSB's are only good for 12,000 miles and one year.. He told me they sell more SRT8's than most ... and has not had anyone in yet..
Go back and tell him he is retarded....... The TSB was just published not more than a week ago. Besides, most people would not be paying attention to the rotors anyway, unless there was a grinding noise coming from the brakes. lol

He cannot deny you if your rotors have the symptoms...

If he still deny's you, go to another dealer. lol Fem.......

[Quick]

Go back and tell him he is retarded....... The TSB was just published not more than a week ago. Besides, most people would not be paying attention to the rotors anyway, unless there was a grinding noise coming from the brakes. lol

He cannot deny you if your rotors have the symptoms...

If he still deny's you, go to another dealer. lol Fem.......

How about just contacting the regional Dodge rep?

[1BAD4DR]

How about just contacting the regional Dodge rep?
Well hell........ That'll work too. :) pppphhhhhffffffffffftttttttt! :)

[Andy Dean]

Thanks for keeping on top of this issue. I have significant grooving, especially on the front rotors with just 3,000 miles on the odo. My friend at the local Midas who has been doing brakes for 20 years says they look like they have normal grooving for 18,000 miles. The dealer won't comment until their technician is able to take a look at them, as if they can't see them staring through the big gaps in the wheel spokes. I will go there with TSB in hand.

Thanks

[SRTGirl]

My dealer has one set in already and the other set will be in on hopefully Friday. At my dealer all the service adviser did was look at the front rotors through the rims and said OK.. So he is replacing all four.They have already turned the rotors once.

[SRTGirl]

Well, I got the Rotors on and, they feel alot tighter. They look nicer as well. The dealer said my pads were fine.

[Bandit]

Don't forget to BED YOUR BRAKES!!

[6POINT1]

I was gonna ask about that. Now I just need to find that article.

Dropped mine off at the dealer tonight and looking to get it back tomorrow.

[Quick]

I was gonna ask about that. Now I just need to find that article.

Dropped mine off at the dealer tonight and looking to get it back tomorrow.

Yea. Link please? I forgot if it was 6 times in succession or 8 times. and this better be worth it 'cause it's going to hurt me. I generally avoid using my brakes unless necessary prefering to down shift when it's an alternative. I'll just be cringing when I do this. Probably a hold over from driving a semi in my previous life. Always disconcerting when you used up your brakes before getting to the bottom of the hill... although that was less embarrassing than having to pull over with your trailer tires on fire :doh:

[6POINT1]

Found it (http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm)

[DriveATransAm]

i dont think you have to worry much about brake fade with the srt8.

i only cringe when i brake because i know i have to now clean my wheels again :(

[arizonaharleyman]

Well, I am a bit pissy.:icon_twisted: I complained about grooving at 600 miles, it is documented. I now have 5600 miles, the dealer has had my car for 2 days. I call to find out what is up, I am told the car is ready. I asked if the TSB for the brakes was done, I was told that a "brake inspection" was completed and the car is ready to be picked up. No parts on order, no TSB performed, just an inspection. WTF?? So, I am waiting for a call back from my service advisor prior to picking the vehicle up, any suggestions for conversation points??? LOL:BLAM:

[M Taylor]

Depends on the dealer, some will try anyting to not do the TSB. Mine said at 4400 mile I had road debrie in my breaks and that scored the rotors, then I was breaking to hard and neither of those were covered by warranty, non the less he turned my rotors. Why if it was not covered under warranty did he turn my rotors? Then I had to hear the story that the first fix is to turn the rotors the second fix is the new slotted rotors (I don't see that in the TSB). Then I had to hear that it is their call how they fix my breaks and they don't have to do it per the TSB.

After a week of refusing to pick up my car I got the slotted rotors.

[Quick]

Depends on the dealer, some will try anyting to not do the TSB. Mine said at 4400 mile I had road debrie in my breaks and that scored the rotors, then I was breaking to hard and neither of those were covered by warranty, non the less he turned my rotors. Why if it was not covered under warranty did he turn my rotors? Then I had to hear the story that the first fix is to turn the rotors the second fix is the new slotted rotors (I don't see that in the TSB). Then I had to hear that it is their call how they fix my breaks and they don't have to do it per the TSB.

After a week of refusing to pick up my car I got the slotted rotors.

Yeesh! You're right about depending on the dealer. I dropped mine off yesterday with 1000 miles on it for warranty paint scratches, some interior trim, etc. I mentioned the TSB to the service advisor and we looked at the rotors. You could just feel 1 or 2 ridges on the left rear and the right front. The other 2 were completely smooth. He put down "check rotors for TSB" on the work order. Called today to give me an update and said "Your car is indicated under the TSB but I have to order the rotors. Should be here when it gets back from the paint shop".

I'm pretty sure dealers make money on warranty work. Maybe not as much as non-warranty but still profit. You keep better mechanics if you have steady work. I don't think those guys get paid if they're standing around.

[arizonaharleyman]

Ok, feeling much better now. Going UP the chain of command at the dealer got my new rotors on order. I always find it interesting how easy and smooth it is to purchase a vehicle, yet you often have to fight tooth and nail to get satisfaction in the service department. Hah, Five Star my a$$.

[Hemi31]

Got my rotors done the other day.The funny thing was the brake dust was almot gone after they were done.The SRT guys said the majority of the dust was from the rotors burning up.

[6POINT1]

For once, I had absolutely no problems with the dealer. I called in my order because they already had pads ready for me and I mentioned the TSB. My new advisor told me he needed to look at it and I mentioned the inspection was in my file. That worked and 2 weeks later I hve my new brakes.

[Randino69]

Sorry, that I am a complete newbie here. What is a TSB? I have felt a few grooves, but I only have like 1100 miles. What should I do to protect myself? Should I call them now to lodge a complaint now? What you think? :lightsaber2: :itchy-scratchy:

[nhdave]

Take a copy of the TSB(Technical Service Bulletin to your dealer and tell him you have grooving in your rotors. They SHOULD replace the rotors and possibly the pads under warranty. Got mine at the dealers now getting it done. They would only turn the rotors until I showed them the TSB.

[Juggernaught]

Great! Now when will they come up with one for the GC SRT-8? I'm having this issue myself. I don't know why they left out the GC.:icon_neutral:

[nhdave]

Great! Now when will they come up with one for the GC SRT-8? I'm having this issue myself. I don't know why they left out the GC.:icon_neutral:
Me either but what can you lose if you give it a shot...
At tleast you're on record with them as having the problem for when it DOES come out.

[Randino69]

Sorry for sounding like an idiot:loser1: here, but where do I find the TSB anyway? I would like to print that out, and have it ready to go. :dead_horse:

[nhdave]

No problem, it's in the second post of this very thread.

[Randino69]

Thanks! I will check that out! :rockon: :icon_mrgreen:

[Randino69]

I printed it out, and life is good! Thanks for posting that PDF! I am going to use it! :smiley_thumbs_up:

[nhdave]

Don't sweat it, that's what it's all about... helping :D

Got mine done today as well but they didnt replace the pads..:icon_frown:

[Randino69]

Go figure! On this bulletin, they do the rotors only. Just enough to get away with it huh? I would think the pads would have some lines on them though right? What did I miss?:drool: :baby:

[Quick]

Go figure! On this bulletin, they do the rotors only. Just enough to get away with it huh? I would think the pads would have some lines on them though right? What did I miss?

You just seat them to the new rotors and they'll be flat again.

[Randino69]

Sweet! Thanks for letting me know! You guys rock the house! :notworthy:

[1BAD4DR]

Sweet! Thanks for letting me know! You guys rock the house! :notworthy:
Tell the dealer to bed the new rotors to the pads for you. It is suppose to be part of the brake procedure. :)

[Randino69]

I am just glad this exists! Thanks for all the feedback guys!:lightsaber2:

[Titanium - SRT8 Hemi]

Wondering if anyone has asked about the cost to replace the pads when they do the rotors maybe me just being anul not a hole:icon_razz: but it would seem to me that with nice flat, fresh, new rotors that it would only be a good idea to have the same flat surface in the pads?

[1BAD4DR]

Wondering if anyone has asked about the cost to replace the pads when they do the rotors maybe me just being anul not a hole:icon_razz: but it would seem to me that with nice flat, fresh, new rotors that it would only be a good idea to have the same flat surface in the pads?
Some have been getting the new pads as well under the TSB.... Sweet talk the dealer. :)

[Titanium - SRT8 Hemi]

Sorry to be :loser1: but also meant to ask if the Dust is better anyone notice that yet? If they are just doing the rotors maybe have those done and on my own do the Ceramic Pads?

[1BAD4DR]

Sorry to be :loser1: but also meant to ask if the Dust is better anyone notice that yet? If they are just doing the rotors maybe have those done and on my own do the Ceramic Pads?
From what I have been reading, the dust seems to be nearly nonexsitant.

[Randino69]

I am certainly going to have my pads replaced when they fix my rotors. Oh yeah! Life is good! You all rock! :pepper: :banana:

[SilverMagnumSRT8]

PMO:icon_mad: .... so I contact the dealer to get the sunroof rattle (TSB) , Damper (TSB) and the slotted rotor work done. They have ordered a new damper, repaired the rattle and replaced the old with new slotted rotors and have the pads on order. Perfect, right........? No FW. I specifically told the Service tech to put on the work order to be very careful when using an impact gun on the lugs nuts. Would you f@!!@!@ believe it, I pick up the car and 3 of the 4 rims are badly scored. :puke: So now they need to decide what to do. The maggie needs to go back for the other service work (noted above).

Funnily enough (and not funny ha ha) I told her I made the trip to their dealership because I was told they had SRT trained mechanics;)

Not a chance, she said they are all trained the same. :eek:

LESSON: I don't know if there is one, but before you get the brake TSB or any work get them to sign off on the condition of your rims!

[Quick]

I specifically told the Service tech to put on the work order to be very careful when using an impact gun on the lugs nuts. Would you f@!!@!@ believe it, I pick up the car and 3 of the 4 rims are badly scored. :puke: So now they need to decide what to do. The maggie needs to go back for the other service work (noted above).

I assume that since they are deciding what to do that they scored the wheels and not just the lug nuts? I don't see any problem. They will either replace or repair. I would state your preference that they are replaced. If there is any push back I would at least cc your regional factory rep with the letter. I'm guessing some shop kid who steam cleans engines, takes wheels on and off, sweeps up, etc. Expensive mistake that probably won't happen again.

[Bandit]

After about a week now I haven't had to clean my wheels yet! There is dust, but a very small amount. Before the TSB job my wheels were black after just one or two days of driving.

[FlyByU]

Went to the dealership today and got my rotors ordered. Wish me luck.

[SilverMagnumSRT8]

They are going to try and repair. I told them if they are not to my satisfaction I will be asking them to be replaced. It was on the wheel lock whole. It looks like they used the gun instead of by hand. They are ordering a rubber socket to avoid in future.

[Randino69]

I hope I can get these things looked at, fixed and out the door with no dang issues. I am getting a little scared here. Someone scratches my rims, and it is over!!! :lightsaber2: :mad:

[SRT8 eh]

I had my rotors done on tuesday, was supposed to be done monday. Dropped the car off, walk a mile or so to the mall, get a call an hour & a half later saying come get your car as someone forgot to order your pads. As he he did not have your VIN#. Is that what i sat down for a 1/2 an hour with the call center representative with my insurance papers so that she could take my info/VIN! So they check my horn (only the high works) & take my car for a drive (2Ks, change my stereo to one of my CDs while on their cruize) to check the F/end clunk & say that the canot hear anything out of the ordinary...

So i go in the next morning @ 9:00AM, ask "are my parts here"? (new rotors, pads & horn) Service advisor kinda mumbles sounding a little unsure "oh ya". So i decide to walk around the dealership & look @ Cars/trucks for a bit. Talked to the parts guys as i know them very well. So anyways i kill 2 hours & my car has still not moved. So i go find the tech that i requested to work on my car (he's on coffee break now <11:00>) So i politley ask him "are you going to work on my car soon"? He replies "I would have already, but they hid your rotors on themselves" Man what a hassle! So he says he has them now & will be pulling it soon. So i finally go to the mall ( for a few hours) come back & my car is still in the shop, so i go & sit in the waiting room & find more uneasy customers waiting for their rides to be worked on! So my parts buddy happens to walk by & says "you are still here"? "yup" He says "i'll go check on your car for you" Apperantly it had been ready for an hour & a half! Service advisor was supposed to call me... Get my car back, horn has not been fixed & they only put front pads in, not that i care, but, wait a day so they can order pads cause the 1st day the reason they gave me was that the tech did not want to change rotors w/o new pads! Get it straight guys, lol. Was not impressed to say the least. Then they say they ordered BOTH horns as he does not know which one is gone! Umm... stick your ear near em both & i will blast it for ya so ya can figure it out! OR just hold the horn & see which one is not working OR unplug the suckers one @ a time to see which one is not sounding...I would have to say its the low one as my cars horn sounds like a Honda's!!!

Sorry for sounding like a whiner, BUT, i hate the dealer (as i am sure MOST if not all of you do) And just wanted to get my story out there. To top it all off someone took a (didn't scratch) chunk out of my front facia just under the H/L. So i got a free touch up paint! Woo hoo, so impressed its not even funny.

[Titanium - SRT8 Hemi]

Hey all, I had my TSB done for the brakes today and by the way I LOVE YOU ALL thank you so much for all the input on this as I went to my dealer loaded for bear. Called on Wednesday to make the appointment and make sure they had the parts, which I was told they did. So Loaded with my TSB from the "sticky" I went in and told them I wanted my pads replaced also since my rotors were rippled I was certain the pads were too. They did a great job no arguments the car was done prior to the promised time, everything excellent ...
well maybe not ...
that fn dust is still there as bad if not worse than before. The pad kits they used are 5174311 - AC / 5003003 F and 5174327 - AB / 5003003 R curious if anyone knows if these are the correct TSB replacement pads. Has the dust problem gone away for anyone that has had this done, and was it immediate or over time? Thanks Again all really do appreciate it.

[brandon]

i just got the slotted rotors. on side goes on way and the other goes the other way? is there a left and a right side rotor? the dealer said there was only one number for slotted rotors. can anyone help me????

[1BAD4DR]

i just got the slotted rotors. on side goes on way and the other goes the other way? is there a left and a right side rotor? the dealer said there was only one number for slotted rotors. can anyone help me????
There is a different Part number for the fronts and the rears, but not for left or right...

[brandon]

There is a different Part number for the fronts and the rears, but not for left or right...
thanks! so they go the opposite way?

[1BAD4DR]

thanks! so they go the opposite way?
I guess.......... It would make sense it would go that way.....

[FF2MOE]

everything excellent ...well maybe not ...
that fn dust is still there as bad if not worse than before. The pad kits they used are 5174311 - AC / 5003003 F and 5174327 - AB / 5003003 R curious if anyone knows if these are the correct TSB replacement pads. Has the dust problem gone away for anyone that has had this done, and was it immediate or over time? Thanks Again all really do appreciate it.


Don't worry, 1fastsedan got the replacement rotors also and he has horrible brake dust issue still. As for me, No problems here.

Saturday: 1fastsedan and I wash the SRT's at my house

We put about 50+ miles on the SRT's lots of braking

1fastsedan has brake dust gremlins ARRRGGGHHHH. As for me NADA..

How's this possible? I ditced the Brembo pads for the C-Tek's

[DragginWagon]

Threads like these really make joining a forum a good idea. After reading this thread I checked my rotors, and if the grooves were any deeper they'd almost be slotted! Just got off the phone with my dealer (who advertise being ranked the #1 dealer in the country by Chrysler) and have an appointment set up for Monday morning. Hopefully their reputation will make this experience less frustrating then some of you have had to deal with.

[ZOUKEPR]

I went by my dealer about two weeks ago to talk to him about the rotor TSB. I had about 2,600 on the car and at least two rotors showed scoring. He didn't even bother walking over to see them and just went ahead and ordered new slotted rotors and pads. He was already aware of the TSB. I just got back from there with the new equipment installed. They look great and feel fine.

Gregg

[Daron]

All,
I took our Magnum to Gunn Dodge here in San Antonio and they are saying the pads do not get replaced with the new rotors. The TSB doesnt say they have to be but its stands to reason that deeply scored rotors leave deeply scored pads behind. A coworker of mine had the TSB done at a dealer across town and they replaced the pads and rotors on his Charger SRT-8. I am considering taking the car to the other dealer. Any thoughts?

[Hemi31]

It sucks but it's up to the dealer.Some 80grit sand paper on a block will clean the gouges off the pad if they won't replace them.You can also buy the new dust free pads and have them installed when they put the rotors on.

[GROCERY GTR]

just got mine done yesterday,no questions asked look great and stop excellent,old ones were not even grooved and thsy still repalced them 10000 miles on my ride...............

[peterson]

I have had my slotted rotors for about 1k miles now and they are already starting to grove as well. I am not hard on them at all, to tell you the truth i think i am really easy on them. I was excited when i got them but now i am just dissapointed. I havent contacted the dealer yet, hopefully soon. Will keep you posted.

[Hemi31]

I have had my slotted rotors for about 1k miles now and they are already starting to grove as well. I am not hard on them at all, to tell you the truth i think i am really easy on them. I was excited when i got them but now i am just dissapointed. I havent contacted the dealer yet, hopefully soon. Will keep you posted.
Is it multilple grooves like the old rotors or just one or two?If it's just one ore two you may have gotten a piece of dirt between the pad and the rotor.

[peterson]

multiple grooves just like the stock ones.

[CoolFlo]

Heres a question ...

Got the brake TSB done not too long ago ...

Driver side - rotor slots point to the back of the car.
Pass. side - rotor slots point to the front of the car.

Is this typical for everyone or did the dealership order me 2 drivers side sets.

Please keep in mind I do understand that if you put the driver side rotor on the passenger side the slot will point in the opposite direction .. the question is .. is there supposed to be a driver side and passenger side?

Thanks guys

[CoolFlo]

:censored: Maybe I should have read this thread before I posted that ... :censored: :censored: